Jessica Hancock

It's exciting when someone in the industry does really well. It is. I think it makes you feel as a TTRPG creative, someone else is doing really well. You're like, oh, well, there's the potential. There's that market. And maybe this will invite new people into the hobby.

Yeah.

I know, that's why I'm also really happy because it's something that's not D&D.

There is a Gloomhaven RPG, though, PJ.

But every big Kickstarter has stuff attached to the RPG that's not RPG stuff. Like, they have minis and coins and tote bags and stuff, which that's... Half the match. Yeah.

And then becoming a logistics company, organizing plushies, moving around the globe is a whole other job, yeah.

Yep. Not what I wanted to do that time.

Check it out on our next Kickstarter.

So I understand Paizo has been doing some things. Should we segue and talk about that a little bit?

So we, it was, was it two weeks ago we talked about Paizo updating? About two weeks ago, yeah. I was definitely here. So it wasn't last week. Anyway, so they updated their community use policies. And my understanding, in brief, is that people were not happy with that. and just discuss their displeasure in a reasonable way online as people do online in a nuanced way.

And then Paizo announced on Thursday that they're reversing course in the plan to replace the community uses policy with the new fan content policy. But yeah, so that's all that I know. I don't know if you have any more detail, Russ, but that is kind of my brief overview of understanding of it.

which I feel like I can't remember what the difference was it was trying to bring it in line because they're bringing out second edition like they're in the process of doing that and also because of the OGL crisis they were moving away from using OGL like stuff so I think this was meant to bring it all in line with all the new stuff

But it had specific terms.

Exactly. So if you handcrafted dice bags and sewed on different character classes on there, that was fine. But you couldn't do a print-on-demand Etsy store, you know,

t-shirt thing where you know the drop shipping you couldn't do that but you could make your own t-shirts and sell them one at a time yes you could do that yes nothing that's mass production was pretty much the thing so they wanted to encourage artisans yeah is the best way i can describe it

but yeah from what I understand I haven't read into it too much I saw a bit of it online a lot of people in the community that use this and it affected them were unhappy with the policy in the same way that with you know the OGL situation people were like hey this doesn't seem very fair this is unclear here this doesn't seem you know so I saw a lot of that discussion happening online and in fair play to us it seems like they've gone back and said okay I think the thing was that the fan content policy didn't allow like

So it looks like they're saying, well, it looks like there's for now saying you can use the old one and they're going to refine the fan content policy to clearly define

things so i think the plan is to take it away redo it and i imagine they're probably going to put out a draft and get feedback before putting it out fully this time maybe i would imagine like from a pr perspective that would be my advice i'll be like hey but yeah they've apologized and said oh sorry for the misstep let's we'll we'll redo it and I think that's fair enough.

I think that's fair enough for me.

And I saw some people online comparing it and I think, I don't feel this is the same because it's... No, it's not the same at all.