Jessica Hynes

You're going to do the Tony Blair knuckle point.

Anyway, Mark Mylord, that's why we talked about that, because, yeah, he directed one of those seasons.

Well, I think Caroline knew it was going to be a big deal.

Her and Craig knew.

She knew because she was a genius.

And she did a first... What was amazing is that she was so sure about the tone of it and the style of it when we did a whole first episode of that.

In the studio up in Manchester.

i don't think there was an audience but it was we had to scrap it but she was like it's too sitcomy it's not what i want yeah we're making ken loach on telly that's what we're doing comedy ken loach on telly and so we so it that went went away and we regrouped and then styled it so it's much more naturalistic and realistic and then it's so good i mean it was just like people like what oh it was like nothing else

It was hard because it was hard.

I mean, it would depend on the director.

Mark, obviously, was, you know, some of the directors filmed it so you were repeating a lot of the scenes just so they could track across because that was a big part of how they were shooting it.

They would be tracking across everybody's faces as they said their lines.

So there was a lot of timing involved and a lot of, you know,

but it was hot in the summer it was getting it would get very hot um especially you know under the lights and in the studio but i mean to say it was hard i mean compared to some things it was an absolute dream mostly it was an absolute dream yeah

But you'd been packing a lot in.

Oh, well, I had been packing a lot in, yeah.

Well, of course.

I mean, but, you know.

Oh, yeah, the overflowing ashtrays constantly.

At one point, I think I might have had a newborn, yes.