Jessica McKenna

Definitely.

I just feel like also it's one of the traps of like having music represented in media is if you hang too much on how good the band is supposed to be.

Right.

Or how good a single song is supposed to be.

Like I found myself like drawn more to stories about like a...

finding what we sound like stories, because I think that just gives you a lot more latitude to not every song has to be like the best song ever.

I know we're not talking about musicals here, but it's like, it's such a sad issue I have with Hadestown, a musical that I mostly really like, but I'm like, a whole plot point is, and then Orpheus came up with the greatest song ever heard, ever of all time, and it's, oh!

It's like, no, no, we don't buy it.

And so I think it's like, yeah, it's a tough trap if you know he is successful or like this tour is a monster hit.

That's a way harder bar to clear versus does this song just have to sound like an era, feel connected to the character, you know, like...

I don't want to get too far ahead, but there's lots of ways that we use artists in fictional bands where maybe they're on a downside, maybe they're on a comeback.

They're finding their sound, which I think is narratively a strong choice to make sure that you're not putting too much pressure to invent the greatest song you've ever heard.

Right.

Yeah.

Yes.

Yes.

Fictional comedians is like really tough.

Studio 60.

Really tough.

Yeah.