Jessica Reed
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Two people are dead because of me, you know? And I have a very hard time with that still.
Hell.
It makes my heart drop. It makes me very, just, like really exhausted because I can't change that. That's one thing in this world that I can't go back and fix.
Greg was like, you know, follow me real quick. So I followed him and I was wearing this coat that was making a lot of noise.
Like a windbreaker type deal. Right. It was making me nervous. So I like took it off and set it down on the floor.
In the kitchen. And he went straight upstairs, and so I followed him up the stairs.
I don't know.
He just told me to follow him, so I did.
And we went upstairs, and when I turned around, Greg had turned on the light in the room, and I seen this guy laying in the bed, and I said, come on, let's go, let's do something, you know, because there was people there.
Like, panic. It was like craziness. Like, God, what if they wake up, you know? What? He just turned and went into that room. The guy had rolled out of bed, and they were wrestling with the gun. And I just was, like, startled, and my gun went off. And I have no idea where that shot went.
And then Greg shot the guy in the back of the head and he went back in that room and shot that lady. He ran down the stairs, and I ran after him. And I picked up my coat on the way out. And that ring that they found, it flew off then.
Yes. I didn't know until like way, way later when they showed me a picture of it, because I knew I lost that ring, but I had no idea where.
We didn't say anything. I mean, I started crying at one point, and Greg just looked at me, and he was like, don't do that. You know?
I hate hearing them because it's just kind of like... how everything was portrayed. I hate hearing it.
Because I'm not like that.
No. That was my way of showing Greg that I was OK with it too. Because when he told me not to cry, it was like, what? I'm not supposed to feel bad about this? I mean, how can you have no remorse for this at all?
Yeah.
I hope he's okay, you know, because I don't wish anything bad on him. I hope he's all right.
I have love for him. But as far as any of that other stuff, not really.
No.
Because when I wake up in the morning, I can look at myself and be okay. They're where they should be on the streets because they didn't do anything. And I'm where I should be, you know?
To stop being suspicious.
They weren't there. They had nothing to do with this.
I would do the dishes, run all the dishes through the washing machine and all that. It sucks.
I've had it for a few months now.
When I was accused, I was angry, and then I felt the overwhelming power of the federal government. I mean, that's something I had no... That's a Mack truck in there. It was unbelievable.
You wake up one morning and they say you're a criminal. Well, it kind of was like that, but it was a little different than that. It was more of a long process, and I didn't do it. I just didn't, and it doesn't make any sense.
I did make a mistake. I didn't follow procedures. And that bothers me, and there's no way around that. That was wrong because I'm a boss, because I'm supposed to set the example. I bet there's a phrase you've heard over and over again.
Oh, absolutely. But you know what? This doesn't look like a duck. It doesn't quack like a duck. It just doesn't.
She had nothing connected to them. Sure. They weren't friends, family. She had no reason to protect them. And she had every reason to benefit herself.
I said, what's wrong? She said, I know what they want. They want me to tell them that those two boys were here. And they weren't. And I can't do it, and I'm going to put myself away for life. And I told her, I said, you just got to tell the truth. That's all you can do at this point.
And we went back in, and that's what she told them, that those boys were not there, that Livers and Sampson were never at that farmhouse when the killings occurred, that they had never met them before, that they had nothing whatsoever to do with it, that it was her and Fester.
Let's go home.
I know there was nobody else there. It was just me and Greg. That's what happened.
I didn't kill this guy, though. I didn't have a gun. How am I supposed to kill somebody without a gun? I watched Greg do it. I didn't kill anybody. I'm not kidding. I did not kill anybody. I promised you guys this.
I've never killed anybody, okay? I really didn't. This is so seriously.
I took money. That's all I did. I swear to God. All I did was take money. I don't want to go to jail for murder because I didn't do it.
Two people are dead because of me, you know? And I have a very hard time with that still.
It makes my heart drop. It makes me very, just, like really exhausted because I can't change that. That's one thing in this world that I can't go back and fix.
Greg was like, you know, follow me real quick. So I followed him and I was wearing this coat that was making a lot of noise.
Like a windbreaker type deal. Right. It was making me nervous. So I like took it off and set it down on the floor.
In the kitchen. And he went straight upstairs, and so I followed him up the stairs.
He just told me to follow him, so I did.
And we went upstairs, and when I turned around, Greg had turned on the light in the room, and I seen this guy laying in the bed, and I said, come on, let's go, let's do something, you know, because there was people there.
Like, panic. It was like craziness. Like, God, what if they wake up, you know? What? He just turned and went into that room. The guy had rolled out of bed, and they were wrestling with the gun. And I just was, like, startled, and my gun went off. And I have no idea where that shot went.
And then Greg shot the guy in the back of the head and he went back in that room and shot that lady. He ran down the stairs, and I ran after him. And I picked up my coat on the way out. And that ring that they found, it flew off then.
Yes. I didn't know until like way, way later when they showed me a picture of it, because I knew I lost that ring, but I had no idea where.
We didn't say anything. I mean, I started crying at one point, and Greg just looked at me, and he was like, don't do that. You know?
I hate hearing them because it's just kind of like... how everything was portrayed. I hate hearing it.
Because I'm not like that.
No. That was my way of showing Greg that I was OK with it too. Because when he told me not to cry, it was like, what? I'm not supposed to feel bad about this? I mean, how can you have no remorse for this at all?
I hope he's okay, you know, because I don't wish anything bad on him. I hope he's all right.
I have love for him. But as far as any of that other stuff, not really.
Because when I wake up in the morning, I can look at myself and be okay. They're where they should be on the streets because they didn't do anything. And I'm where I should be, you know?
To stop being suspicious.
They weren't there. They had nothing to do with this.
What if my real purpose is to never get out of prison, but change the way imprisoned women come in broken and leave mended? All I ever wanted to do was just get out of here, leave all this behind and never look back. That one thought changed my whole paradigm. I stopped living solely for my own outcome, and I started living for those around me.
I would do the dishes, run all the dishes through the washing machine and all that. It sucks.
I've had it for a few months now.
I know there was nobody else there. It was just me and Greg. That's what happened.
I am not kidding. And if no one believes me, then I really want to go back to myself.
Greg blew a guy's head off. And he shot a hole through the lady's face.
I didn't kill this guy, though. I didn't have a gun. How am I supposed to kill somebody without a gun? I watched Greg do it. I didn't kill anybody. I'm not kidding. I did not kill anybody. I promised you guys this.
Okay, I'll tell you guys what I did like. I liked the adrenaline rush.
I didn't like what caused the adrenaline rush. but I liked the adrenaline rush. I don't want that adrenaline rush again. I liked it, but I liked it too much. It's like heroin. That's why I've never tried heroin in my life because I have heard that you like it too much when you do it. So I won't ever do it because I don't want to get addicted to it.
My grandma's coming into town, and I... Jessica, you'll recall, was all of 17. Did she wonder why the Wisconsin cop was joined by investigators from Nebraska? She certainly seemed to. I don't even think we entered Nebraska.
I stole a whole bunch of money from somebody. I don't know who, I don't know where. I just remember stealing a whole bunch of money. And yes, we did lose that pipe when we stole this money.
And you're saying that me and Greg did it.
I've never killed anybody, okay? I really didn't. This is so seriously.
I took money. That's all I did. I swear to God. All I did was take money. I don't want to go to jail for murder because I didn't do it.
I was with Craig. That's all I was with. I was with Craig. Yeah.
This guy, I don't know why, but he does look kind of familiar.
Because all I remember hearing in this house was bang, bang, bang, bang. And so I was like, oh, that's not good. And so I freaked out and left because obviously that guy's up there killing somebody. I don't want to stick around and have to do this. Excuse my language, I'm sorry, but I don't know what happened up there.
I know this sounds really dumb, but I wish he wouldn't have been a murderer.
It's really hot. I think the hot ones are going to be the dumb ones.