Jessica Reed Kraus

So the two men have conflicting views about how he died.

And I wish... My goal is that they're going to talk, to sit down and talk about what happened.

I... When I talked to...

I'm undecided.

I go back and forth.

When I talk to Nick, he makes sense.

And I actually had someone who was part of the autopsy, one of the women.

Actually, I shouldn't say her name, but she said it was ruled initially forced suicide.

Which is right.

Because I think he knows, I mean, when he says, oh, this is, this is a hoax, right?

Like it's, he's doing a terrible job at translating what he believes here.

And I understand it because I do think it is a hoax.

I went in thinking it was this sex trafficking, you know, global cabal kids hidden in basements and stuff.

It's not.

And I think the files have proven, I mean, they're dumping millions of photos of

And files and emails.

And it's really kind of just a bunch of rich people gossiping about society scenes.

And, you know, you have pictures with Donald Trump and beauty queens and bikinis.

But I just I think he's I think he's bothered by it.

And I don't think he liked Jeffrey Epstein.