Jessica Rose

In the presence of this foreign RNA that's introduced into the cell via the lipid nanoparticle, which is, you know, very efficient Trojan horse way to introduce foreign genetic material, it can swap out the photocopying paper, let's say, if you want to think about it that way, and form chimeric RNA.

In the presence of this foreign RNA that's introduced into the cell via the lipid nanoparticle, which is, you know, very efficient Trojan horse way to introduce foreign genetic material, it can swap out the photocopying paper, let's say, if you want to think about it that way, and form chimeric RNA.

Now, there is a possibility if that happens, because it does happen, that you could actually end up with a new virus. Now, whether or not that, like, there are a lot of things that have to line up in order for this to happen. So everybody don't get too scared yet. But the thing about this is, and I'm going back to what you and Claire were talking about, this has to have been tested.

Now, there is a possibility if that happens, because it does happen, that you could actually end up with a new virus. Now, whether or not that, like, there are a lot of things that have to line up in order for this to happen. So everybody don't get too scared yet. But the thing about this is, and I'm going back to what you and Claire were talking about, this has to have been tested.

This has to have been done. These questions need to have been answered. way before anybody was injected, because we're dealing with gene-based therapies. And you can't go back from this if we mess this up. And you're actually potentially looking at an actual, you know, biohazard in the making. So it also begs the question, why are they talking about pandemics with H5N1 bird flu all of a sudden?

This has to have been done. These questions need to have been answered. way before anybody was injected, because we're dealing with gene-based therapies. And you can't go back from this if we mess this up. And you're actually potentially looking at an actual, you know, biohazard in the making. So it also begs the question, why are they talking about pandemics with H5N1 bird flu all of a sudden?

What do you think? NSF. I certainly think that's a sign that they're messing with the virus. Same with the monkeypox. Why does... I mean, look, we had indigenous dengue fever break out in Southern California from a mosquito in Southern California the first time in history. The press, unconcerned. It was a major, major, major story in my mind. While there was a... about six weeks ago.

What do you think? NSF. I certainly think that's a sign that they're messing with the virus. Same with the monkeypox. Why does... I mean, look, we had indigenous dengue fever break out in Southern California from a mosquito in Southern California the first time in history. The press, unconcerned. It was a major, major, major story in my mind. While there was a... about six weeks ago.

I believe there were a couple of cases. Yeah, big, big deal. But in the meantime, a single clade one of monkeypox shows up off a plane from Denmark or something. And oh my God, there's a headline on the front page of every newspaper.

I believe there were a couple of cases. Yeah, big, big deal. But in the meantime, a single clade one of monkeypox shows up off a plane from Denmark or something. And oh my God, there's a headline on the front page of every newspaper.

The way this is being reported, the distortions and the lack of understanding of what they're even talking about and what is important and what's not important is making me insane. So I will ask you this question that I asked at the beginning. Why are we not holding the same ethical standards that we would for CRISPR generally? Why don't we? What happened? Is it hysteria?

The way this is being reported, the distortions and the lack of understanding of what they're even talking about and what is important and what's not important is making me insane. So I will ask you this question that I asked at the beginning. Why are we not holding the same ethical standards that we would for CRISPR generally? Why don't we? What happened? Is it hysteria?

Is it that just the fact that it's slipped through and being used so widely, they're just kind of leaning into it? What do you surmise? And let's get Dr. Craig in here on that as well. But Jessica, you first.

Is it that just the fact that it's slipped through and being used so widely, they're just kind of leaning into it? What do you surmise? And let's get Dr. Craig in here on that as well. But Jessica, you first.

I think motive has changed dramatically. Yeah, the definitions are changing, the motives have changed. Maybe it has a lot to do with your point about people just not understanding. And I tend to veer toward that because like,

I think motive has changed dramatically. Yeah, the definitions are changing, the motives have changed. Maybe it has a lot to do with your point about people just not understanding. And I tend to veer toward that because like,

Just to give you an example of a self-amplifying phase one trial, if you even try to explain to the 200 participants what they were being injected with, is there any chance that any of them would understand the implications, the potential devastation even to the environment? Because if something goes wrong, these alpha viruses, they're shared among many mammalian species.

Just to give you an example of a self-amplifying phase one trial, if you even try to explain to the 200 participants what they were being injected with, is there any chance that any of them would understand the implications, the potential devastation even to the environment? Because if something goes wrong, these alpha viruses, they're shared among many mammalian species.

So it's like, we're not just talking about messing up our own, you know, let's say gene pools, I suppose. When you're talking about gene-based therapies, it can translate, pardon the pun, to other people.

So it's like, we're not just talking about messing up our own, you know, let's say gene pools, I suppose. When you're talking about gene-based therapies, it can translate, pardon the pun, to other people.