Jessica Rose

The point is, it's, yeah, I think the way to say it is not just the individual, say, cancer risk downstream, there are many other risks. Dr. Craig, are you still with us? And I want to get your thoughts on this same topic. Go ahead there.

The point is, it's, yeah, I think the way to say it is not just the individual, say, cancer risk downstream, there are many other risks. Dr. Craig, are you still with us? And I want to get your thoughts on this same topic. Go ahead there.

Hysteria, hysteria, mass formation. It feels like that's been a lot of the story of the last five or six years. Is there more to get into, Jessica? Have we run the cycle? Is there to cover the topic to your satisfaction?

Hysteria, hysteria, mass formation. It feels like that's been a lot of the story of the last five or six years. Is there more to get into, Jessica? Have we run the cycle? Is there to cover the topic to your satisfaction?

I think so, yeah. I just, I can't emphasize enough how people should stay well away from any gene-based products. That includes the modified and the self-amplifying stuff. It's even like more... red flaggy to me.

I think so, yeah. I just, I can't emphasize enough how people should stay well away from any gene-based products. That includes the modified and the self-amplifying stuff. It's even like more... red flaggy to me.

Um, and, uh, because the potential, quite frankly, like when you start messing with genes, like I said before, there's no predictability here and we actually could end up screwing ourselves, pardon my language. Um, Like, I know that fear is a huge component. And without it, you know, they wouldn't have gotten away with what they got away with in the first four years.

Um, and, uh, because the potential, quite frankly, like when you start messing with genes, like I said before, there's no predictability here and we actually could end up screwing ourselves, pardon my language. Um, Like, I know that fear is a huge component. And without it, you know, they wouldn't have gotten away with what they got away with in the first four years.

And I think that, you know, people absolutely need to be based in knowledge and not fear. But at the same time, man, we have to scream to the rooftops, like, enough fear. With the gene-based stuff, enough with the gain-of-function research, enough with the chimeric virus crap, enough with building viruses so that we have to make vaccines before that guy gets us.

And I think that, you know, people absolutely need to be based in knowledge and not fear. But at the same time, man, we have to scream to the rooftops, like, enough fear. With the gene-based stuff, enough with the gain-of-function research, enough with the chimeric virus crap, enough with building viruses so that we have to make vaccines before that guy gets us.

I mean, the whole thing is so absurd. In my opinion, we're brilliant. Our species is so brilliant. And all of the stuff that we could be doing and all the energy and the time and the money could be spent on such amazing stuff. Not this biohacking nonsense that will end up leading to our detriment. That's all I have to say. Okay.

I mean, the whole thing is so absurd. In my opinion, we're brilliant. Our species is so brilliant. And all of the stuff that we could be doing and all the energy and the time and the money could be spent on such amazing stuff. Not this biohacking nonsense that will end up leading to our detriment. That's all I have to say. Okay.

And Claire, any last thoughts?

And Claire, any last thoughts?

Yeah, I'm just thinking, hearing your beautiful accent and then talking about the destructive effect of fear, I had a historical sort of weird image of the idea of Winston Churchill going, shelter in place, shelter, oh my God, oh my God, we're doomed. I mean, just look at where history has gone well and where it's not gone well. It's never because of fear.

Yeah, I'm just thinking, hearing your beautiful accent and then talking about the destructive effect of fear, I had a historical sort of weird image of the idea of Winston Churchill going, shelter in place, shelter, oh my God, oh my God, we're doomed. I mean, just look at where history has gone well and where it's not gone well. It's never because of fear.

It's not gone well because of fear and panic. And anybody that has addressed horrifically and genuinely fear-provoking circumstances did so with intestinal fortitude and things went a lot better. Guys, thank you so much for being here and thank you for all the work and I hope you'll keep it up. We're going to talk about Claire's book. Jessica, do you want people just to go to your sub stack?

It's not gone well because of fear and panic. And anybody that has addressed horrifically and genuinely fear-provoking circumstances did so with intestinal fortitude and things went a lot better. Guys, thank you so much for being here and thank you for all the work and I hope you'll keep it up. We're going to talk about Claire's book. Jessica, do you want people just to go to your sub stack?

Yeah. Oh, by the way, I just wanted to mention my website is down. Just because Universe, I'm having domain issues. They're linking it to something that you don't want to go to. And my Substack is also just r.substack.com. So I have two.

Yeah. Oh, by the way, I just wanted to mention my website is down. Just because Universe, I'm having domain issues. They're linking it to something that you don't want to go to. And my Substack is also just r.substack.com. So I have two.