Jessica Tarlov

It's not $19 billion, and Nick Shirley isn't going to be, you know, the next Walter Cronkite, but there's a legitimate problem in Minnesota.

But it's an interesting point that you raise about giving him this thankless job, because obviously a lot of palace intrigue over whether Trump prefers Rubio or Vance.

Yeah.

to continue his legacy.

And I was reading some reporting that he's apparently been asking people like, well, who do you like?

Probably his like 23-year-old assistants that are running around who are about to become attorney general or whatever.

But, you know, Minnesota had such incredible pushback on ICE and what was going on with immigration enforcement there.

To some degree, I would kind of not want to fuck with Minnesota anymore.

I would have moved on to another state, but, you know, the heart wants what the heart wants.

No.

I mean, yeah, I get it.

But since you brought up elections, I want to ask you about this pretty viral moment, at least on the right from the State of the Union.

People thinking that it's definitely going to shape the midterms when Trump asked lawmakers to stand if they agreed with the government's first duty being to protect American citizens and not illegal aliens.

All the Republicans got up.

Democrats stayed seated.

Now the GOP has an ad that's similar to the famous Kamala Harris's for they them ad.

Do you think that this is going to be an effective election tool for them?

Because it's too far out or it's just like, whatever.

Yeah, I would agree with you.

And I just also to connect it to that big GOP strategy meeting from about a week and a half ago with Chris LaCivita and James Blair.