Jessica Tarlov

When you read about Anthropic's response and you see also, I'm sure you've been noticing the spate of interviews that people who have worked at these enormously powerful and influential AI companies have been doing, saying how scared they are about where the technology is going and that we are so close to the point where we're going to have no control over

the robots, however you want to say it, that you can understand why the head of Anthropic is like, well, let's have a conversation about what you're going to be doing with our tech.

We don't want mass surveillance of Americans.

The Fourth Amendment still does matter to some people.

And then these autonomous weapons.

And I'm not saying that the Department of Defense has to turn over all of their plans to a private company.

But if you want to use their tech, you have some responsibility to be above board about what you're going to do with it and probably to have some sort of relationship in managing it.

I mean, the—

Over the years, there has been an enormous amount of brain drain out of the government for a whole host of reasons.

But I always think about, remember the San Bernardino terrorist attack when they couldn't get into the iPhone, right, of the shooter?

Right.

And the government was like, well, what are we going to do?

And they had to beg Apple to work with them in order to do this.

And it was a national security reason, et cetera.

And there was a big conversation, obviously, about protecting people's rights and that they don't want their reputation out there, that they are going to go into your phone, right?

Now, this guy was a murderer.

It's a little bit different than if you left your phone on the subway and someone picked it up.

But there's a balance that these companies have to strike.

And a lot of them were—

founded on core American principles to some degree, including, I don't know, core American principle of capitalism.