Jessica Tarlov

Absolutely.

And you just got to my next question, which was going to be about your mind as a political tactician and how we should be campaigning for the midterms.

Because Epstein class, John Ossoff's been talking about it, Ro Khanna.

And then there are folks in the party who think, you know, we've got to be focused on those kitchen table issues more, like affordability, immigration even, versus talking about the Epstein files.

So I think I got your answer on that.

Definitely need the proof when you move forward with it.

But it does leave room for a lot of speculation that I don't think the folks involved are enjoying either.

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Welcome back.

You're home right now in San Francisco for the California Democratic Party Convention this weekend.

You're being honored, guest of honor.

I know there's going to be a lot of talk about the governor's race and midterm strategy, big wins like Prop 50 and what's going on with redistricting.

We've seen pushes all over the country, Colorado and Maryland, though there seems to be opposition from the head of the state Senate there.

I think it was pretty good.

But I, you know, you talk about the integrity of the elections and that's a major anxiety that people have, especially with Trump saying we're going to send ICE to the polls, etc.

But I know that a lot of people are really nervous actually about that period after the election, if Democrats win and if it's close, that we could have a redux of 2020 where there's, you know, recounts.

They say that there is fraud and Mike Johnson is no Mike Pence.

So is there a plan for that?

I mean, he waited, what, two months to see Congresswoman Grijalva when she won a free and fair election.