Jessica Tarlov

And I think you can draw a direct line between what is going on in America's streets and

And I think you can draw a direct line between what is going on in America's streets and

especially in Minneapolis, and this change.

especially in Minneapolis, and this change.

And we're always looking for a silver lining or something to be hopeful about.

And we're always looking for a silver lining or something to be hopeful about.

And we were talking about this last week with your buddy Jeff Sonnenfeld and his new book and How Can You Push Back and the idea of collective action.

And we were talking about this last week with your buddy Jeff Sonnenfeld and his new book and How Can You Push Back and the idea of collective action.

The people of Minneapolis have given us a roadmap.

The people of Minneapolis have given us a roadmap.

they have shown that you can push back effectively.

they have shown that you can push back effectively.

It's a tragedy what happened with Renee Goode and Alex Preddy.

It's a tragedy what happened with Renee Goode and Alex Preddy.

Of course, I want to talk about that a bit more in terms of what's going on with ICE.

Of course, I want to talk about that a bit more in terms of what's going on with ICE.

But they will back down if you show up.

But they will back down if you show up.

and you peacefully protest, and you tell them that this isn't all right, this isn't American, this is not how we do things here, Tom Holman announcing that the surge is over, a small security force is going to remain, that's a win for our side.

and you peacefully protest, and you tell them that this isn't all right, this isn't American, this is not how we do things here, Tom Holman announcing that the surge is over, a small security force is going to remain, that's a win for our side.