Jessica Tarlov

So that's kind of what's up for discussion at this particular moment in terms of the tangible implications of it.

And I think that we'll know a lot more if any of that will come to fruition in the next 24 hours, maybe even when this comes out, because Senator Thune is going to have to make a

If you don't have the bill split, it is going to have much broader implications for Americans.

And there are a lot of Republicans who are dug in saying, absolutely not, we don't want to split this.

That is Thune's inclination that he doesn't want to.

But it is interesting to see that

you know, in your terms, the cavers, the Senate Democrats who ended up saying in the end, no, actually, let's just reopen the government.

I have no appetite for this anymore.

Like the Angus Kings of the world, of the word, Jeanne Shaheen, they've all said, absolutely not.

Like, we're going to the mats on this one.

And it's interesting to see the caucus even more united than they were over something like health care, which affects every single American, right?

Like we all

We all need health care, whether you're on Medicaid, Medicare, have private insurance, or some combination.

And I think that that energy is going to be put to good use in hopefully pushing us towards some of these reforms that I just read out.

Rand Paul, who's the chair of the Homeland Security Committee, very, very powerful.

is really hot on this.

He wants all of the agents who were involved to be suspended.

He's calling out the fact that Alex Preddy was referred to by government officials as a domestic terrorist, a would-be assassin right out of the gate.

And there are other powerful conservative voices that are speaking a similar language to the Democrats.

And so hopefully that'll put enough pressure on Thune.