Jessica Tarlov

It's gone up 20 points just from over the summer, 46% support, 41% oppose.

Independents are plus 12 on it.

Republican support is up 10% over the last six months.

The most interesting finding that I saw in the polling around this is that two-thirds of Democrats and the majority of independents say abolish ICE is not, quote, abolish immigration enforcement.

They want to figure out a way to do this that is commensurate with American values and our judicial system.

And the things that I read off in the beginning about making sure that people have warrants and body cams and cooperating with state and local officials when you're doing probes, that's all part of that.

But I agree with you that there needs to be

some, you know, that bumper sticker effect, right?

Like some clear explanation of what a new reformed ICE project

would be like.

It seems like ICE is a name that we are not going to be comfortable with again.

So the Democrats should have a clear proposal for that that doesn't involve people, you know, ticking through, well, we're going to get this, we're going to get this.

We probably won't get that, but we're going to get this and we're going to get this.

Because I think that you need to find a way to come out there and to say, we know that there are undocumented people in this country that are committing crimes and we need to get out of, we need to get them out of here.

And I think to some degree that involves also talking about blue city mayors cooperating to get those hardened criminals out.

That's what Tom Holman is going to try to do when he's in Minneapolis.

It seems like Mayor Fry and Tim Walz are open to those conversations.

I'm not talking about, you know, full access interviews.

to jails in the way that they're asking for.

But, like, in California, they work with ICE all the time to do this.