Jessica Tarlov

You cannot find any of the words.

that we were used to seeing for these conversations at Davos.

You know, people are not talking about sustainability.

They're not even talking about income inequality.

It's just like, where is Scott Besant?

And, you know, what is Donald Trump going to do with his board of peace?

Trump is really upending the global order.

And that's where I want to start.

And you had already mentioned this in our elongated and awesome banter section.

But what is your perspective on, I don't want to just make this about Davos, but like, where are we in terms of

of the world order.

I was listening to Emmanuel Macron this morning cozying up to China.

That was his opening statement, basically.

This is after Donald Trump published private text messages between him and the NATO Secretary General and with Macron, who were very flattering as usual, though Macron did say, I have no idea what you're doing with Greenland.

But what do you make of how Davos is handling Trump?

It is, absolutely.

And that so many people with these kinds of evil aspirations found their vessel in Trump because, I mean, so many of his beliefs that he held for his whole pre-political life are just wiped away, right?

And he was this...

blankish canvas that bad actors could write all over.

And I think that it's how we've ended up in a lot of this mess.