Jessica Tarlov

the news about Brexit actually happening hit me, where I said, this can't be.

I get it.

And it had similar elements, right?

A big propaganda campaign was blaming, you know, dark-skinned people.

Do you remember those images of people, like, running through the forests?

They're taking your jobs.

They're taking your health care, making up this huge scandal about the NHS, for instance.

And then, you know, it only took months for there to be a huge amount of regret on the part of the Brits for what they had done, that they had

siphon themselves off from Europe, not just because of money and jobs and things like that, but because of their spirit and their vibe, right?

They're Europeans, and now they don't have access to it, and they're not part of it in the same way.

And I don't want to feel that from the post-World War II order.

I don't want to sit here and say, oh, we're not in the same camp with the French and the German and the Swedes and the Danes and all the good guys.

It's just my sad story, I guess.

So one pressure point that cuts across partisan lines is the Epstein files, which you mentioned.

So now they've broken the law.

They had 30 days to release the millions of documents.

So far, I think only over a million have been released.

The survivors are regularly speaking out about how ridiculous this is and how re-traumatizing it is for this to be drawn out in this way.

What do you think the impact of the Epstein files is?

Do you think we will ever see them?