Jessica Tarlov

And I took this picture wearing a tank top that said, a woman's place is in the White House.

And I'm so excited.

And...

It's the summer, so, you know, there were a lot of stories to be written, and Comey hadn't said boo yet.

And, you know, it seemed like the country was on course to elect its first female president, and I happen to like Hillary Clinton a lot.

And I was thinking about that picture.

in context of what the last 10 years have looked like.

And politics meant a lot to me, but I know that I would be a bit of an outlier of those that would post a political picture.

But if you did it now, like for 2026, if we were doing this in 2036, I think people would be reflecting back on how politics has been dominating far too much of our lives and has become

such a cultural touchstone and some of that is intentional and Donald Trump did that very well right making UFC fights and comedy shows and everything kind of part of the ethos of whatever the modern Republican Party is or MAGA however you want to say it but 2016 has some purity to it I think still for people where they could say I didn't wake up every day going like oh

oh, my God, what did he do now, right?

Or what am I afraid about?

It was like, let's sing Lemonade and, you know, listen to Drake.

And that seems like a better life to a large degree.

Cheers to a better job than we've done in the past.

Heather, this was a thrill.

I loved our conversation.

Thank you for joining me.

Thank you for having me.

It was great fun.