Jessica Tarlov

And I think that you have different kinds of friendships, obviously, for people that you're connected to through work versus the friends that you might meet in college or, you know, out in the world, your SoulCycle pals or whatever it is that you're doing.

But we do have genuine relationships.

And I think that when you only consume clips of the show, which is how most people at least take me in, that they don't see the entirety of the dynamic.

Now, I'm not trying to minimize the fact that there are times where it looks totally awful and can even feel awful to me.

Jesse Waters and I definitely get into things where I'll say, even on air, like, you're being such an incredible jerk.

And that's very real and genuine.

But I think it is important for the sake of your workplace, but also in terms of modeling yourself.

proper civic behavior to be able to get past these things.

And I write about this a lot in my book, which will be out in September.

And I think that you need to be able to argue really hard and then also play important and positive roles in each other's lives.

And I think that's very much the case for us there.

Totally.

I mean, listing like no Trumpers apply in your dating profile and things like that.

Like, I get it.

I doubt that I could be married to a vehement Trump supporter.

But it it portends for some extreme loneliness to be heading people's way and just being turned off.

or separating yourself from the chance of having experiences that may be uncomfortable for you, but I still think are important.

Like, I feel like a more complete person because of where I work and the kind of people that I interact with and the things...

That I say.

And also, I would add, like, if you're friends, then people actually listen to what you're saying more than if you're just in an adversarial crouch all the time.