Jessica Tarlov

And now, I don't know if you've noticed this, but the right just says, I don't care anymore.

Like, you'll make...

an argument that you think should hold water with them.

And they'll say, but Joe Biden let in 250,000 migrants per month for the first three years that he was in office.

So you did this.

This is your fault.

We're just cleaning up your mess.

And people put on their partisan blinders and move on.

So that's my take.

How do you think that we stomach this?

Which made Trump very mad.

I think it depends like how fiscally conservative he is.

So if you're talking about like a couple percentage points off like the corporate tax rate, right, or even the individual tax rate, you know, I could kind of understand how that works.

But if you're getting into a world of like, I want to cut massive social programs like

no one should get their SNAP benefits, for instance, or that you're going to go door-to-door trying to means test all of these things.

I'm not talking about Social Security.

I know Scott is into means testing Social Security.

But I think that there's a very big difference, like the delta, in what would be fiscally conservative or what maybe he thinks fiscally conservative is.

Also curious what socially liberal means to him.

So I think, you know, most people now are like, oh, I'm socially liberal.