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Jessica Vaughan

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The President's Daily Brief
PDB Situation Report | November 23rd, 2024: Ukraine’s Deadly Weapons Race & the Mass Deportation Debate

There's a role for diplomacy. There's a role for carrots and sticks. With the case of Venezuela, we have no relationship with Venezuela right now. But we need to remember also that a lot of the Venezuelans who came here and took advantage of the catch and release policies at the border were living in other countries before they came here.

The President's Daily Brief
PDB Situation Report | November 23rd, 2024: Ukraine’s Deadly Weapons Race & the Mass Deportation Debate

There's a role for diplomacy. There's a role for carrots and sticks. With the case of Venezuela, we have no relationship with Venezuela right now. But we need to remember also that a lot of the Venezuelans who came here and took advantage of the catch and release policies at the border were living in other countries before they came here.

The President's Daily Brief
PDB Situation Report | November 23rd, 2024: Ukraine’s Deadly Weapons Race & the Mass Deportation Debate

There's a role for diplomacy. There's a role for carrots and sticks. With the case of Venezuela, we have no relationship with Venezuela right now. But we need to remember also that a lot of the Venezuelans who came here and took advantage of the catch and release policies at the border were living in other countries before they came here.

The President's Daily Brief
PDB Situation Report | November 23rd, 2024: Ukraine’s Deadly Weapons Race & the Mass Deportation Debate

They were firmly settled with jobs and permission to stay in these countries. And I think we are going to have to try to work with some of those countries to take them back. Maybe not in the case of, you know, gang members like TDA or hardened criminals, but other people who were doing fine in Chile or Peru or Argentina and now are going to lose their work permit.

The President's Daily Brief
PDB Situation Report | November 23rd, 2024: Ukraine’s Deadly Weapons Race & the Mass Deportation Debate

They were firmly settled with jobs and permission to stay in these countries. And I think we are going to have to try to work with some of those countries to take them back. Maybe not in the case of, you know, gang members like TDA or hardened criminals, but other people who were doing fine in Chile or Peru or Argentina and now are going to lose their work permit.

The President's Daily Brief
PDB Situation Report | November 23rd, 2024: Ukraine’s Deadly Weapons Race & the Mass Deportation Debate

They were firmly settled with jobs and permission to stay in these countries. And I think we are going to have to try to work with some of those countries to take them back. Maybe not in the case of, you know, gang members like TDA or hardened criminals, but other people who were doing fine in Chile or Peru or Argentina and now are going to lose their work permit.

The President's Daily Brief
PDB Situation Report | November 23rd, 2024: Ukraine’s Deadly Weapons Race & the Mass Deportation Debate

With the criminals, it's going to take a tougher approach with Venezuela, but there's a tool in the law that allows our government through the State Department to impose a visa ban on countries or groups of people within countries as a sanction to try to get them to relent in their stance of not taking someone back.

The President's Daily Brief
PDB Situation Report | November 23rd, 2024: Ukraine’s Deadly Weapons Race & the Mass Deportation Debate

With the criminals, it's going to take a tougher approach with Venezuela, but there's a tool in the law that allows our government through the State Department to impose a visa ban on countries or groups of people within countries as a sanction to try to get them to relent in their stance of not taking someone back.

The President's Daily Brief
PDB Situation Report | November 23rd, 2024: Ukraine’s Deadly Weapons Race & the Mass Deportation Debate

With the criminals, it's going to take a tougher approach with Venezuela, but there's a tool in the law that allows our government through the State Department to impose a visa ban on countries or groups of people within countries as a sanction to try to get them to relent in their stance of not taking someone back.

The President's Daily Brief
PDB Situation Report | November 23rd, 2024: Ukraine’s Deadly Weapons Race & the Mass Deportation Debate

So you could go to a country like Venezuela or China and say, look, we're not going to issue visas to your diplomats. or we're not going to issue visas to your kids of government officials who want to come to school in the United States, or to the wives of government officials who want to go visit Vegas, or these people who want to go to Disney World.

The President's Daily Brief
PDB Situation Report | November 23rd, 2024: Ukraine’s Deadly Weapons Race & the Mass Deportation Debate

So you could go to a country like Venezuela or China and say, look, we're not going to issue visas to your diplomats. or we're not going to issue visas to your kids of government officials who want to come to school in the United States, or to the wives of government officials who want to go visit Vegas, or these people who want to go to Disney World.

The President's Daily Brief
PDB Situation Report | November 23rd, 2024: Ukraine’s Deadly Weapons Race & the Mass Deportation Debate

So you could go to a country like Venezuela or China and say, look, we're not going to issue visas to your diplomats. or we're not going to issue visas to your kids of government officials who want to come to school in the United States, or to the wives of government officials who want to go visit Vegas, or these people who want to go to Disney World.

The President's Daily Brief
PDB Situation Report | November 23rd, 2024: Ukraine’s Deadly Weapons Race & the Mass Deportation Debate

Those visas simply are going to be cut off until you start living up to your international responsibilities and take your citizens back. And this has been successful at times in the past when it has been applied. Again, it depends on the country. A country like Haiti, that's a tough situation. We may have to work with third countries on the Haitians.

The President's Daily Brief
PDB Situation Report | November 23rd, 2024: Ukraine’s Deadly Weapons Race & the Mass Deportation Debate

Those visas simply are going to be cut off until you start living up to your international responsibilities and take your citizens back. And this has been successful at times in the past when it has been applied. Again, it depends on the country. A country like Haiti, that's a tough situation. We may have to work with third countries on the Haitians.

The President's Daily Brief
PDB Situation Report | November 23rd, 2024: Ukraine’s Deadly Weapons Race & the Mass Deportation Debate

Those visas simply are going to be cut off until you start living up to your international responsibilities and take your citizens back. And this has been successful at times in the past when it has been applied. Again, it depends on the country. A country like Haiti, that's a tough situation. We may have to work with third countries on the Haitians.

The President's Daily Brief
PDB Situation Report | November 23rd, 2024: Ukraine’s Deadly Weapons Race & the Mass Deportation Debate

But, you know, there are tools that we have at our disposal. Maybe we use carrots instead of sticks, offer aid, offer something that those countries want. But we do have leverage and tools available to us. The problem is they've never been used by the federal. I shouldn't say never.

The President's Daily Brief
PDB Situation Report | November 23rd, 2024: Ukraine’s Deadly Weapons Race & the Mass Deportation Debate

But, you know, there are tools that we have at our disposal. Maybe we use carrots instead of sticks, offer aid, offer something that those countries want. But we do have leverage and tools available to us. The problem is they've never been used by the federal. I shouldn't say never.

The President's Daily Brief
PDB Situation Report | November 23rd, 2024: Ukraine’s Deadly Weapons Race & the Mass Deportation Debate

But, you know, there are tools that we have at our disposal. Maybe we use carrots instead of sticks, offer aid, offer something that those countries want. But we do have leverage and tools available to us. The problem is they've never been used by the federal. I shouldn't say never.

The President's Daily Brief
PDB Situation Report | November 23rd, 2024: Ukraine’s Deadly Weapons Race & the Mass Deportation Debate

They were never used under Biden, but they haven't been used as much as we should be using them to lean on these countries. So we just, you know, they can't just dump all of their criminals and dissidents and everything else on our doorstep.

The President's Daily Brief
PDB Situation Report | November 23rd, 2024: Ukraine’s Deadly Weapons Race & the Mass Deportation Debate

They were never used under Biden, but they haven't been used as much as we should be using them to lean on these countries. So we just, you know, they can't just dump all of their criminals and dissidents and everything else on our doorstep.