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Jessica Wynn

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
3841 total appearances

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The Jordan Harbinger Show
1325: Matriarchy | Skeptical Sunday

You know, you have female figurines found at archaeological sites, goddess imagery in ancient art, burial patterns suggesting high status for some women.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1325: Matriarchy | Skeptical Sunday

That all feels really empowering.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1325: Matriarchy | Skeptical Sunday

But Eller says, look, finding a statue of a woman does not tell you women ran the government.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1325: Matriarchy | Skeptical Sunday

Finding goddess worship doesn't tell you women held political authority.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1325: Matriarchy | Skeptical Sunday

So spiritual symbolism and public governance are very different things.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1325: Matriarchy | Skeptical Sunday

And a male god is worshipped in most traditions.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1325: Matriarchy | Skeptical Sunday

And that hasn't stopped most men from being excluded from power.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1325: Matriarchy | Skeptical Sunday

And then Eller makes a second argument that I think is even more interesting and more genuinely feminist.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1325: Matriarchy | Skeptical Sunday

She argues the myth of matriarchal prehistory is actually bad for feminism, even though it may feel empowering.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1325: Matriarchy | Skeptical Sunday

Because of what it assumes women are, right?

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1325: Matriarchy | Skeptical Sunday

In these stories of the matriarchal golden age, it always looks the same.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1325: Matriarchy | Skeptical Sunday

Peaceful, nurturing, communal, close to nature.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1325: Matriarchy | Skeptical Sunday

Women are cast as caregivers, consensus builders, and life givers.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1325: Matriarchy | Skeptical Sunday

And Eller's point is, yes, that might sound empowering, and it flips the valuation, but it keeps the stereotype.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1325: Matriarchy | Skeptical Sunday

So the same traits that have been used to exclude women from power are now being used to justify it.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1325: Matriarchy | Skeptical Sunday

And the assumption goes completely unchallenged that women are all about care and emotion and men are about reason and hierarchy.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1325: Matriarchy | Skeptical Sunday

Historically, that assumption has done a lot more harm than good because it frames women as submissive and men as dominant.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1325: Matriarchy | Skeptical Sunday

That's exactly her argument.