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Jessie Stephens

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Mamamia Out Loud
The Women Quietly Quitting Their Husbands & Your High School Ghost

And is it a rebellion against this push of marriage is hard, marriage is hard?

Mamamia Out Loud
The Women Quietly Quitting Their Husbands & Your High School Ghost

We grew up, I think, millennials and Gen X grew up with it is something you need to work at.

Mamamia Out Loud
The Women Quietly Quitting Their Husbands & Your High School Ghost

Like it was all about labour.

Mamamia Out Loud
The Women Quietly Quitting Their Husbands & Your High School Ghost

And I wonder if...

Mamamia Out Loud
The Women Quietly Quitting Their Husbands & Your High School Ghost

There was an interesting passage that sort of said marriage isn't hard, it's actually really easy because you get married, you get presents, you go on a honeymoon, it's lovely, and then there's no performance plan, there's no manager, there's no boss that comes in and says you guys are doing a bad job.

Mamamia Out Loud
The Women Quietly Quitting Their Husbands & Your High School Ghost

You can just settle and stop talking and be rude to each other if neither of you want to leave.

Mamamia Out Loud
The Women Quietly Quitting Their Husbands & Your High School Ghost

And so I wonder if it's just going is marriage โ€“

Mamamia Out Loud
The Women Quietly Quitting Their Husbands & Your High School Ghost

An adjective or is it a verb?

Mamamia Out Loud
The Women Quietly Quitting Their Husbands & Your High School Ghost

Are you married, full stop, or is it something you need to do?

Mamamia Out Loud
The Women Quietly Quitting Their Husbands & Your High School Ghost

It's kind of like parenting.

Mamamia Out Loud
The Women Quietly Quitting Their Husbands & Your High School Ghost

Which is also stonewalling, which is the word that means, you know, they talk about the four horsemen that lead to the end of a marriage and it's criticism.

Mamamia Out Loud
The Women Quietly Quitting Their Husbands & Your High School Ghost

And this is a dynamic that's sort of brought up in the article where someone just ends up stonewalling and going, I'm not going to respond.

Mamamia Out Loud
The Women Quietly Quitting Their Husbands & Your High School Ghost

I'm not going to engage.

Mamamia Out Loud
The Women Quietly Quitting Their Husbands & Your High School Ghost

When you start talking, I get distracted and I walk out and mow the lawn, whatever it is.

Mamamia Out Loud
The Women Quietly Quitting Their Husbands & Your High School Ghost

And I think that quiet quitting is a mixture of all of those things.

Mamamia Out Loud
The Women Quietly Quitting Their Husbands & Your High School Ghost

Because the other one, of course, is

Mamamia Out Loud
The Women Quietly Quitting Their Husbands & Your High School Ghost

and they say that that's the biggest predictor of divorce.

Mamamia Out Loud
The Women Quietly Quitting Their Husbands & Your High School Ghost

And you can tell with a lot of this there's contempt and there is, it's like they don't want to be mean to each other.

Mamamia Out Loud
The Women Quietly Quitting Their Husbands & Your High School Ghost

So it's like you totally disengage.

Mamamia Out Loud
The Women Quietly Quitting Their Husbands & Your High School Ghost

Raising tiny humans is a big job.