Jia Tolentino
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you know, all day because of, you know, this myriad of structural factors. And so the only lever to pull for these complicating conditions is a drug like this.
you know, all day because of, you know, this myriad of structural factors. And so the only lever to pull for these complicating conditions is a drug like this.
Yeah, for sure. You know what I mean? How else would you enrich the private prison? Exactly, exactly.
Yeah, for sure. You know what I mean? How else would you enrich the private prison? Exactly, exactly.
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Yeah. Well, I think of I kind of think of the Kardashians as, you know, the sort of weather vane for what the winds of sort of capital and, you know, like deeply punitive, technologically based beauty standards. You can literally see written upon their bodies what women all across the country are going to then do, you know, in this really kind of amazing, terrifying way. And so, yeah.
Yeah. Well, I think of I kind of think of the Kardashians as, you know, the sort of weather vane for what the winds of sort of capital and, you know, like deeply punitive, technologically based beauty standards. You can literally see written upon their bodies what women all across the country are going to then do, you know, in this really kind of amazing, terrifying way. And so, yeah.
You know, I think it was like that. No one had ever heard of it. And then, you know, I started to hear about there was this shot that was intended for treating chronic conditions caused by type 2 diabetes that women in Hollywood, like, you know, some women in Hollywood were taking and their bodies were suddenly visibly changing.
You know, I think it was like that. No one had ever heard of it. And then, you know, I started to hear about there was this shot that was intended for treating chronic conditions caused by type 2 diabetes that women in Hollywood, like, you know, some women in Hollywood were taking and their bodies were suddenly visibly changing.
And it was interesting to me to begin with because, you know, like I grew up in, you In sort of very conservative Houston, Texas, like deep within this hegemonic, like white dominated the age of sort of the only people that are beautiful are like Paris Hilton, you know, and Britney Spears. And that was the body prescribed.
And it was interesting to me to begin with because, you know, like I grew up in, you In sort of very conservative Houston, Texas, like deep within this hegemonic, like white dominated the age of sort of the only people that are beautiful are like Paris Hilton, you know, and Britney Spears. And that was the body prescribed.
And then we had the sort of Obama era, you know, grand democratization of culture, which included. you know, people started to have open dialogue about how you could be healthy at every size, which you can, right? And that all sorts of bodies are beautiful. And I always felt a little skeptical of the sort of Dove ad body positivity thing for reasons we can get into later.
And then we had the sort of Obama era, you know, grand democratization of culture, which included. you know, people started to have open dialogue about how you could be healthy at every size, which you can, right? And that all sorts of bodies are beautiful. And I always felt a little skeptical of the sort of Dove ad body positivity thing for reasons we can get into later.
But I said, okay, finally, like we have reached a new era. Maybe it will unlock the sort of hold that white diet culture has had on America since the 20s, basically. And then this happened. And it was like, Oh, no. Oh, no. We're swinging. I mean, that was my initial interest. I was like, I thought we had already changed that we were going to stay on this train of, you know, openness.
But I said, okay, finally, like we have reached a new era. Maybe it will unlock the sort of hold that white diet culture has had on America since the 20s, basically. And then this happened. And it was like, Oh, no. Oh, no. We're swinging. I mean, that was my initial interest. I was like, I thought we had already changed that we were going to stay on this train of, you know, openness.
And I don't know. And the sharp swing back and what that meant for the way people talked and thought about beauty, I thought was extremely interesting. And then so I just started tracking it.
And I don't know. And the sharp swing back and what that meant for the way people talked and thought about beauty, I thought was extremely interesting. And then so I just started tracking it.
I think it exists. And I think probably the people that are the best at it are fat people. You know, I think that there are a lot of people that have been that have spent, you know, that it's been like this cultural discursive work in the last 15 years to establish a whole vocabulary for how we could be talking about these things. Right.
I think it exists. And I think probably the people that are the best at it are fat people. You know, I think that there are a lot of people that have been that have spent, you know, that it's been like this cultural discursive work in the last 15 years to establish a whole vocabulary for how we could be talking about these things. Right.