Jill Lepore

Honestly, it takes about 50 years historically to get an amendment from idea to ratification.

So if you could imagine...

what the Constitution should look like in 2076, what do you want?

And just have those conversations because I think kind of freeing up our imagination is an important thing to do.

So I think there's a fair bit of that.

I have heard from so many readers who have like amendment ideas.

I guess I have had and still haven't lost some hope that the hoopla around the 250th

much of which is either jingoistic or silly, could be a way for people to talk a little bit more about constitutionalism.

I think there's some real possibility that some states, a number of states have, like every 10 or in some cases 15 years, have a question on the ballot, should we hold a constitutional convention?

And everyone has said no since 1986 when Rhode Island held one.

But we used to have state constitutional conventions all the time.

And I think they're really good for civil society.

Even if the constitutions don't mean amending, it's fine to just get together and say, yes, it's all right.

But I think there's a fair chance that there'll be some state constitutional conventions coming about.

So I don't know.

I think things are stuck until they're not.

And the Berlin Wall comes down.

Thanks to you both.

It was a real honor to be on your show.

I really appreciate it.