Jill Rutter

And notably, when the EU then landed a deal with Australia, they kept far more protections for their farmers.

But UK was quite keen to land those deals to show that they could land post-Brexit trade deals.

And the Australians and New Zealanders, you might say,

slightly saw someone rather desperate for a trade deal coming and insisted on really quite good terms for their farmers.

All of this is much harder, I think, than it looks on paper when you can sort of just talk the easy things.

We can design a scheme that's easier.

You could say that actually in our trade negotiations, we prioritise the consumer more than producers.

We used to always rail against European protectionism.

But one of the things that Brexit does is...

is expose our politicians to that accountability.

They now have to make those choices.

And I think what farmers and fishers find is sometimes they don't like the choices our politicians make.

And that's one of the consequences of Brexit.