Jim Axelrod

Yeah. You know, this is sort of one of the controlling principles of police work. But this case in particular, luck is the residue of design. Right? The harder you work, the luckier you get.

I mean, you can say luck all day long, but unless Detective Moore is staying on this to the degree he did and kept this behind in the chair in front of the screen and went over and over, they would have missed it.

I mean, you can say luck all day long, but unless Detective Moore is staying on this to the degree he did and kept this behind in the chair in front of the screen and went over and over, they would have missed it.

I mean, you can say luck all day long, but unless Detective Moore is staying on this to the degree he did and kept this behind in the chair in front of the screen and went over and over, they would have missed it.

It still makes my hair stand up in the back of my neck. That's how they broke this case.

It still makes my hair stand up in the back of my neck. That's how they broke this case.

It still makes my hair stand up in the back of my neck. That's how they broke this case.

OK, but but even let's take it one step further. They managed to find someone who remembered the guy while he was working there for the brief number of hours he was. Yeah. And they remember that. I mean, that is a stroke of luck, but again, it's only enabled by an incredible amount of hard work.

OK, but but even let's take it one step further. They managed to find someone who remembered the guy while he was working there for the brief number of hours he was. Yeah. And they remember that. I mean, that is a stroke of luck, but again, it's only enabled by an incredible amount of hard work.

OK, but but even let's take it one step further. They managed to find someone who remembered the guy while he was working there for the brief number of hours he was. Yeah. And they remember that. I mean, that is a stroke of luck, but again, it's only enabled by an incredible amount of hard work.

Nick Shaughnessy had everything. He had two parents doting on him. He had every material comfort, anything he wanted. So he was indulged and people might say, well, he was overindulged. But that doesn't create somebody who launches this kind of plot, right?

Nick Shaughnessy had everything. He had two parents doting on him. He had every material comfort, anything he wanted. So he was indulged and people might say, well, he was overindulged. But that doesn't create somebody who launches this kind of plot, right?

Nick Shaughnessy had everything. He had two parents doting on him. He had every material comfort, anything he wanted. So he was indulged and people might say, well, he was overindulged. But that doesn't create somebody who launches this kind of plot, right?

Let me just hop in here for a second. This needs to be said. The degree of difficulty of walking up to someone who you know doesn't want to talk to you and you approach them and not only get them to talk as opposed to just clamming up or running away or... but then tell you things that become helpful in understanding the scope of the story. No one understands how hard that actually is.

Let me just hop in here for a second. This needs to be said. The degree of difficulty of walking up to someone who you know doesn't want to talk to you and you approach them and not only get them to talk as opposed to just clamming up or running away or... but then tell you things that become helpful in understanding the scope of the story. No one understands how hard that actually is.

Let me just hop in here for a second. This needs to be said. The degree of difficulty of walking up to someone who you know doesn't want to talk to you and you approach them and not only get them to talk as opposed to just clamming up or running away or... but then tell you things that become helpful in understanding the scope of the story. No one understands how hard that actually is.

You see the final product on TV sometimes. You're like, oh, you know, Jenna really needs to be called out for what a top shelf job that was.

You see the final product on TV sometimes. You're like, oh, you know, Jenna really needs to be called out for what a top shelf job that was.

You see the final product on TV sometimes. You're like, oh, you know, Jenna really needs to be called out for what a top shelf job that was.

The biggest impediment in a situation like that is most of the time when you interview someone you've never met before about something sensitive, you want to establish a sense of trust. And that's done before the lights go on and the camera goes on by, you know, how you doing? I just want you to understand this is what I'm going to talk to you about. All that's out the window.