Jim Basenius

People who really use these microsites, they host their full website on a microsite.

So, again, people who take their microsite and do way more than they should with it.

So we currently don't have any of that.

I mean, I think that's the best part of open source is, I mean, if we had that, people would be just going and self-hosting this.

We have to have competitive pricing with our self-hosting audience.

And we're building a relationship with them that we understand that, especially for us, a lot of these sites that we are able to export them to static.

So there's not actually an increase in price for us to have a difference between a million clicks and two.

Absolutely.

But I think that's the way that open source value capture differs from closed source value capture, right?

In closed source, you try to capture as much value as possible of the little value you create.

In open source, you publish code, it affects millions of people across the globe almost instantly, and you try to capture as much value you can of that.

But you're always going to be able to capture less value, if that makes sense.

So I just think it's one of those limitations of open source businesses that's just always going to be there, if that makes sense.

Love it.

Absolutely.

I will.

Thank you.

Favorite business book?

How to Be a Capitalist Without Capital.

That got me to know you and I gave it out to my whole team when we read it first.