Jim Burns

I think the...

not only is being present mean a lot of different things, but I, I just remember like you, you, sometimes you, you need to be there when they need you to be there.

Yeah.

And then there's times when they're like, I got, I'll need you, you know, I don't need, yeah, you know, that's good.

And, and some of the greatest, you know, thoughts that you just evoked was, um, my daughter is in law school and she's doing great.

She's up in Washington, DC and she,

Um, she, there was one period of time, it was like a month and every, every day she called because she had moved into her own place.

That wasn't, you know, and it was like, dad, the dishwasher's not working.

And there's a, and the garbage disposal, this, and, and, and she's calling me and I'm like, oh my gosh, you know, that time when your kids realize dad's not a dumbass.

Right.

I'm going to call him and see if he can help me on this.

And she even said one time, she goes, I know I've called you like every day.

And I'm like, it's been the best two weeks of my life.

You just keep doing it.

You keep calling me anytime you need something.

And I think that's the, you know, you can't push anything.

Um, you got to give them the space and let them kind of come to you from time to time, but they always know that you're there and you're ready to pick up, you know, at the, at the drop of a hat.

Well, so in my personal situation, what I saw, I have an architecture degree and a political science degree.

And I was like, what am I going to do with this?

And when I got out of school and so I helped run people's campaigns and it finally got to the point where there was an opportunity for me to run myself.