Jim Chalmers

This is very solid in the circumstances.

Our economy's got no shortage of challenges, but it's also got some very sturdy foundations, and you can see that in today's data.

We had seen the housing market already softening a bit before the budget.

The budget decisions, the tax reforms in the budget are not the only factor when it comes to the housing market.

But what we want to see is we want to see first home buyers getting a fair chance at auctions.

And so we're seeing that increasingly.

And to the extent that we're seeing that, that's a good thing.

Prime Minister David Littleproud, Susan Lee, Angus Taylor, Jim Chalmers, thank you for joining The Daily Oz.

Thank you.

Thanks for taking me to coffee all those years ago.

Bye.

Thanks, Glenn, for the opportunity.

It's nice to see you again, twice in two days.

So how do you manage?

I haven't met that second category of people yet.

Look sometimes I find it difficult and sometimes it's okay and generally the difference between being able to ride the ups and downs or not is how much I'm exercising.

Yeah.

So I've taken up lap swimming a bit lately mostly because nobody can ring you in the pool.

Yeah.

When you're doing laps but swimming or running or something to do with my kids sport typically is the difference between being able to ride the ups and downs or not.