Jim Chalmers

longer term stuff.

We're doing that in addition to longer term stuff and that's what Ontario's doing.

One more and then we're done.

Yeah.

I think a couple of really important answers to those questions.

First of all, spending on the NDIS continues to grow.

I'm a huge supporter of the NDIS and...

My view is we kind of had to save it from itself.

The risk was that the growth in spending on the NDIS was going to become so extreme that some future government, I think of a different political stripe to ours, would be tempted to knock it off or to do things which aren't in the interests of Australians with a disability.

And so we carry that responsibility heavily.

We've created the NDIS.

We believe in it.

We're trying to save it.

And what that means is spending is still growing, but growing more slowly.

trying to make sure that we can afford to fund the services that people need and deserve.

So I understand whenever you're making changes like that, there's a level of anxiety.

I get that.

Similarly, when it comes to the gas tax, I want to be upfront with you and say I know that there's really strong views about it.

And of course, I don't miss the very substantial campaigns that a number of you are running on social media.

I get that.