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Jim Chanos

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Bloomberg Talks
Jim Chanos Talks Credit Markets, Bitcoin

I think a lot of investors, however, are basically investing in the picks and shovels, the data centers, the equipment guys.

Bloomberg Talks
Jim Chanos Talks Credit Markets, Bitcoin

And I think that's, at the end of the day, going to be a commodity business.

Bloomberg Talks
Jim Chanos Talks Credit Markets, Bitcoin

So you're exactly right.

Bloomberg Talks
Jim Chanos Talks Credit Markets, Bitcoin

I mean, we're agnostic on Bitcoin.

Bloomberg Talks
Jim Chanos Talks Credit Markets, Bitcoin

I have no idea where Bitcoin is going or what it's worth.

Bloomberg Talks
Jim Chanos Talks Credit Markets, Bitcoin

But we own Bitcoin against the micro strategy short.

Bloomberg Talks
Jim Chanos Talks Credit Markets, Bitcoin

This was an arbitrage.

Bloomberg Talks
Jim Chanos Talks Credit Markets, Bitcoin

And we just, as you know, we just weren't and aren't believers in this whole concept of Bitcoin treasury companies trading at premium to the underlying asset.

Bloomberg Talks
Jim Chanos Talks Credit Markets, Bitcoin

And it's interesting, I mean, since we were on last, I mean, the so-called MNAV, the premium has compressed from about 1.9 to 1.4.

Bloomberg Talks
Jim Chanos Talks Credit Markets, Bitcoin

But what's really interesting is what's happened to all the strategy wannabe companies.

Bloomberg Talks
Jim Chanos Talks Credit Markets, Bitcoin

Most of those now have gone to below 1.0 NAV.

Bloomberg Talks
Jim Chanos Talks Credit Markets, Bitcoin

So they've been completely blown out of the water.

Bloomberg Talks
Jim Chanos Talks Credit Markets, Bitcoin

And

Bloomberg Talks
Jim Chanos Talks Credit Markets, Bitcoin

You know, the strategy is kind of the granddaddy of this and is still holding on at 1.4.

Bloomberg Talks
Jim Chanos Talks Credit Markets, Bitcoin

But again, we just think that investors are much better suited if they're Bitcoin believers in buying Bitcoin at $1, not $1.40.

Bloomberg Talks
Jim Chanos Talks Credit Markets, Bitcoin

We have not covered any of our shorts.

Bloomberg Talks
Jim Chanos Talks Credit Markets, Bitcoin

But, you know, again, we reserve the right to change our mind.

Bloomberg Talks
Jim Chanos Talks Credit Markets, Bitcoin

But I think as long as MicroStrategy keeps selling its paper to buy Bitcoin, we're going to do the same thing that they're doing.

Bloomberg Talks
Jim Chanos Talks Credit Markets, Bitcoin

No, we did not.

Bloomberg Talks
Jim Chanos Talks Credit Markets, Bitcoin

We just kept it to strategy.