Jim Comey
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I mean, during our dinner at the White House alone, I tried to explain to Donald Trump during Trump 1.0 why it was in his interest to have an institution that he could give the hardest problems to and say, well, they're not on my squad. They're figuring it out according to the law and the facts. It's without fear or favor. And when you lose that, you lose something important. It's a paradox.
I mean, during our dinner at the White House alone, I tried to explain to Donald Trump during Trump 1.0 why it was in his interest to have an institution that he could give the hardest problems to and say, well, they're not on my squad. They're figuring it out according to the law and the facts. It's without fear or favor. And when you lose that, you lose something important. It's a paradox.
I mean, during our dinner at the White House alone, I tried to explain to Donald Trump during Trump 1.0 why it was in his interest to have an institution that he could give the hardest problems to and say, well, they're not on my squad. They're figuring it out according to the law and the facts. It's without fear or favor. And when you lose that, you lose something important. It's a paradox.
The closer you try and hold that institution, the more problems you create. And I shouldn't use the word paradox. You didn't know what I was talking about. But something is really important and in danger when you conduct the business the way they're doing it now.
The closer you try and hold that institution, the more problems you create. And I shouldn't use the word paradox. You didn't know what I was talking about. But something is really important and in danger when you conduct the business the way they're doing it now.
The closer you try and hold that institution, the more problems you create. And I shouldn't use the word paradox. You didn't know what I was talking about. But something is really important and in danger when you conduct the business the way they're doing it now.
I'm not sure there's much I can say if you're going to be trapped in a bubble like that. And there really are bubbles. I mean, when someone yells, fuck you at me on the street, I have to pause and say, is that a Clintonian fuck you or a Trumpian fuck you? And I look for context clues and location and inflection. And it's because people are trapped in their own bubbles.
I'm not sure there's much I can say if you're going to be trapped in a bubble like that. And there really are bubbles. I mean, when someone yells, fuck you at me on the street, I have to pause and say, is that a Clintonian fuck you or a Trumpian fuck you? And I look for context clues and location and inflection. And it's because people are trapped in their own bubbles.
I'm not sure there's much I can say if you're going to be trapped in a bubble like that. And there really are bubbles. I mean, when someone yells, fuck you at me on the street, I have to pause and say, is that a Clintonian fuck you or a Trumpian fuck you? And I look for context clues and location and inflection. And it's because people are trapped in their own bubbles.
Why were both sides angry at us? at different times is because we were doing investigations in difficult circumstances without regard to persons, without fear of favor. But if people are going to say, you know, they invaded Trump's home and leave aside the fact that they had a court-ordered search warrant and all that sort of thing, there's not much you can say to them.
Why were both sides angry at us? at different times is because we were doing investigations in difficult circumstances without regard to persons, without fear of favor. But if people are going to say, you know, they invaded Trump's home and leave aside the fact that they had a court-ordered search warrant and all that sort of thing, there's not much you can say to them.
Why were both sides angry at us? at different times is because we were doing investigations in difficult circumstances without regard to persons, without fear of favor. But if people are going to say, you know, they invaded Trump's home and leave aside the fact that they had a court-ordered search warrant and all that sort of thing, there's not much you can say to them.
And I just wish there were a way to make the bubbles go away.
And I just wish there were a way to make the bubbles go away.
And I just wish there were a way to make the bubbles go away.
No, I think we've touched on the right things. There is danger in having the FBI be an attachment to the White House and part of the president's personal team. And it's the reason I was so freaked when Donald Trump asked for loyalty. It's the reason, for example, Louis Freeh surrendered his White House pass when the FBI was participating in investigations that touched the Clinton administration.
No, I think we've touched on the right things. There is danger in having the FBI be an attachment to the White House and part of the president's personal team. And it's the reason I was so freaked when Donald Trump asked for loyalty. It's the reason, for example, Louis Freeh surrendered his White House pass when the FBI was participating in investigations that touched the Clinton administration.
No, I think we've touched on the right things. There is danger in having the FBI be an attachment to the White House and part of the president's personal team. And it's the reason I was so freaked when Donald Trump asked for loyalty. It's the reason, for example, Louis Freeh surrendered his White House pass when the FBI was participating in investigations that touched the Clinton administration.
You cannot be on the team and do the work credibly. But I think that's the kind of concern you and I have talked about.
You cannot be on the team and do the work credibly. But I think that's the kind of concern you and I have talked about.