Jim Gates

So if that theory that information on a hard drive could equal mass...

since mass and energy are interconvertible, then mass and energy and information could be also interconvertible.

So he says, if you crack open a hard drive, it's invisible, you can't see that mass, it's electromagnetically undetectable.

And he made that connection to,

when we look at universes, the spin of the universes, the center of a universe spins at the same speed as the outer rim.

And the dark matter is mass that's flattening the spin rate.

So he made the connection to say if dark matter equals mass that's electromagnetically indetectable because we can't see it, then maybe what's in that hard drive

could be the same thing as dark matter.

Yeah.

Well, it's just interesting because it connects to the bits and like the whole it from bit thing.

Right.

And like could, you know, tinfoil hat, could dark matter be some sort of a computational cloud?

The deeper you get, the crazier you seem.

Right.

And that's undeniable.

Well, right, a mathematician.

When you do the math and you crunch the numbers, there's no way of getting around that.

Yeah, and that leads to, you know, like the idea of consciousness, right?

Like, can you build up to consciousness from protons and neutrons and electrons?

We haven't found a way to reconcile consciousness from matter.