Jim Jordan

Did you ever confirm the president leaping across the seat, grabbing the steering wheel, this whole concoction she brought up in the January 6th hearing?

Did you ever confirm that?

Hutchinson was a number of the things that she gave evidence on were secondhand hearsay.

You remember making that statement to us last month in the deposition?

I did, and I was referring particularly to what we're talking about now.

Yeah, and you also said Ms.

Hutchinson, regarding this particular claim, was a second or even third-hand witness.

We ask you, if you were a defense attorney, how would you handle cross-examining her if she was on the witness stand?

And you said, if I were a defense attorney and Ms.

Hutchinson were a witness, the first thing I would do was seek to preclude her testimony because it was hearsay.

You remember saying all that?

Yes, that's correct, sir.

That's correct, right?

Were you going to put her on the witness stand if you ever got to trial?

Are you familiar with what Washington Post reporters Carol Lennig and Aaron Davis said in their book?

They did this book, 300-some pages book on Chronicle and the whole investigation of the Justice Department.

And here's what they said.

On page 310, they said Jack Smith had wondered whether some of Hutchinson's claims might be relied upon at trial.

Still at one point, Smith told the elections team he wasn't ready to give up on Hutchinson's account.

Ultimately, however, Trump administration officials uniformly, fiercely disputed her accounts under oath.