Jim Lampley

And then, of course, Cassius Clay, his favorite fighter, Sugar Ray Robinson.

Cool.

And also the ability to objectively analyze your skills and recognize where you need to advance and what you need to do differently.

And you can have an idea of what's effective, but until you see someone come along and do something totally different, that's where the innovators come in, where the real groundbreakers come in.

I bet before Sugar Ray Robinson, you had Willie Pepp.

Yeah.

He recreated our approach to the sport.

Well, you see a lot of that now in MMA.

You see a lot of footwork and movement and switching stances.

It's like a fighter that can't switch stances in MMA.

It's kind of archaic because you— I think we'll reach that point in boxing, too.

Well, Hagler was an example of one of the first guys to be a switch hitter that people sort of dismissed.

Yeah, I think he can win.

I don't know if he's going to win, but I think he can win.

So he's going to have to box a brilliant fight.

Yeah.

Canelo has such unique skills.

And one of the weird things that he does that very few people since Rocky Marciano does is he punches your arms.

He brutalizes your arms.

Yeah.