Jim Lampley

And then people are very reluctant to accept new evidence that is contrary to that.

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One of the reasons why I was really excited to have this conversation with you about the research that you do is that I think it's really important to illuminate to the general public the sheer scope of the task of trying to figure out what is going on and all these different things that can go wrong and right in the human body and that it requires this fucking insane amount of work.

Yeah.