Jim Latrache

So I say, I mean, just for the record, if we don't find out of anything now, nothing will happen.

I'm not coming back.

And that was why the next day, while breakfast, he said, okay, we drive.

And then we start driving towards the streets in Pyongyang.

And suddenly outside Pyongyang, and in the end, we just ended up in an area that didn't look like a place you wanted to go.

and they parked the car in front of a building that looks like something that should have been torn down 10 years ago.

And they asked us to go down in the basement.

I don't know if you have seen the movie Hostel.

I have, yes.

In my mind, behind that door, there was like a guy with a leather...

jacket and an axe and hooks in this in the ceiling i was like holy and i i was like i mean because you cannot run anywhere and i was like what would be the most reasonable if i was mr james how would i react if that is what i see i was like you will be angry you will be defended you you will so i started to think about all the time my wife had pissed me off just to find that anchor

And when I opened the door, it was like, okay, one, two, three, open.

And then suddenly I was standing in this amazing restaurant.

It turned out later that all my paranoia and Ulrich's paranoia came from myself because it had nothing to do about them frighteners.

It turns out the North Korean, as paranoid they are for strangers, they're also paranoid internally.

So why they took us there was because those guys we were dealing with wanted to make sure nobody else was listening.

I mean, and when we say no one else, no other North Korean.

So this was their turf.

That was their secret base.

And the contract we were making down there, some of the most important stuff they were interested in, what would be that when we finalize the contract, all the people in that room will be involved.