Jim Murphy

And when you isolate yourself, we're created for relationship.

And when you isolate yourself and have no one to tell you the truth about who you are and what's possible for you, then you can start to really spiral like I was.

So I called my friend, Ricky Scruggs, and I said, hey,

Tell me what to do.

And he said, find a homeless person and help him.

And so I find this homeless harpist around the corner, this guy playing a full-sized harp, really strange.

I listened to him play the music.

I look at my wallet.

I had $100.

So I must have taken a cash advance out.

Most of my credit cards were maxed out.

And so I took all the money and I gave it to him and I leave.

I go back to where I stand and run on the treadmill to try and breathe.

I come back to that same area in Denver.

I'm sitting in the Starbucks, just staring off into the abyss.

So much anxiety.

And then the homeless harpist walks past me, stops in his tracks and says, are you the guy that gave me that money?

When I was writing the book, I asked this girl from my church, I said, can you read this book and make sure it lines up with the Bible?

Because I want to make sure it's filled with wisdom and it has no falsehoods in it.

And she reads Interactional and she says, have you ever heard of the word Zoe?