Jim Power

And it's all very exciting.

But still, if you stand back and look at it, it was a pretty grim landscape.

And these populists like Farage that are telling us they want us to take us back there, that things were much better.

It's utter bullshit.

But that's the nature of populism.

Yeah, almost.

Chris, I would just like to point out you talk about the way money has destroyed politics.

That is not the case in Ireland.

Good.

You know, I think Ireland is still very much immune from those sorts of forces.

And as I see it,

Virtually every politician that's in the Dáil that I would be aware of and some I would vehemently disagree with, but I would struggle to identify somebody

you know, of that, that's so heavily influenced by finances in the way that Farage, Trump.

So I think Ireland, we may criticize the political system in terms of its incompetence in some ways.

But at the end of the day, I think there are a lot of decent people still involved in Irish politics who actually want to do the right thing.

As I say, I may fundamentally disagree with,

with their definition of what the right thing is, but that's the nature of democracy.

But I think Ireland is lucky in that regard.

In the context of the UK, I know you are no fan of Keir Starmer, but I have to say, at the end of the day, I think he's a decent guy.

He's, I would say...