Jim Power

But we really do need to wake up to this challenge.

You know, there's no doubt about it.

And on the solar thing, actually, you know, you're talking about rooftop solar panels, which is where I'm going.

But, yeah.

You know, planning, I guess the last time I looked at this as an option, OK, the front of my house is the only place suitable for the panels because it kind of faces southwest or thereabouts.

I'm not totally up on the technology of it, but the front of the house was facing the right direction for solar panels.

But up to a few years ago, planning would not allow you to put solar panels on the front of your house for reasons of aesthetics.

But that planning was changed and you can now...

put them wherever you want to put them, basically.

And it is driving a lot of people in that direction.

And it can only be good for the environment, ultimately, and reducing Ireland's greenhouse gas emissions and eventually avoiding those fines if they ever do materialise.

I would have thought so, yeah.

I would have thought so.

But when I started driving an EV, somebody I know accused me of going woke.

So there is still quite a bit of opposition out there to this.

But anyway, I think it is the right thing to do.

I think there's no choice.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Chris, in relation to all of that, obviously the energy security issue has just become so front and central over, well, the last two or three months, since the 28th of February, but even going back to the invasion of Ukraine and so on, energy security has just become so important.

There was a piece of news today that the United Arab Emirates is leaving OPEC.