Jim Power

And, uh, that's why I left him off.

You know, I was really interested in getting his perspective, but anyway, listen, thank you.

Thank you very much.

And also thank everybody who has commented on, uh, the podcast.

It was slightly different for me, but, um,

Yeah, I appreciate the kind words, Chris.

Thank you.

No, you couldn't, actually.

But I had read and used that IFAC report in a number of other reports over the last year because the numbers in there and the potential fines for Ireland, still a massive amount of uncertainty around it.

But you are talking about very significant sums of money.

And there actually does appear to be an attitude in this country.

And people at an official level have said to me, ah, these fines will never be imposed.

You know, so there's no real panic here.

There's probably some truth to that, isn't it?

Well, there may or may not be, but I, I, I don't think that is really the point.

I think there is a more, there is a more substantive issue about the requirement to just drive the alternative energy agenda as quickly as possible.

We have to, and there is no single silver bullet solution here.

It's going to be a combination of different things.

Uh, bio diesel, bio methane plants, like you were talking about there for gas, um,

Obviously, offshore, onshore wind, solar, you know, the electrification of the car fleet, provided that that electrification is mainly driven by renewable energy rather than electricity generated by fossil fuel.