Jim Power

is crazy in my view.

I maybe shouldn't have used the word rich there actually.

I guess I should have sort of said middle income earners.

They are the ones that are actually, I think, demonized in the tax system.

In terms of, I think we would all be prepared to pay more taxes if we believed we were getting good value for money in return.

But if you look at an analysis of Irish public expenditure, it doesn't fill one with confidence.

I mean, my son had the misfortune late last week to spend the night in A&E in St.

Vincent's.

And the description of what was going on there is just incredible, to be honest.

So.

I would love to see a much more structured focus in this country addressing housing, addressing energy, addressing food security, and also addressing the manner in which public money is spent.

The local council here, close to where I live, they've spent over the last year digging up the roads here, putting in cycle lanes, and there's still no sign of that happening.

job finishing the Chinese had ever done in two days or indeed most other countries.

So it's that notion that we're not good at spending public money and value for money is rarely a characteristic.

That's my biggest problem, I guess.

But I still don't like the sort of demonization of anybody that is doing remotely well in this country.

Chris, I actually think what you said in 2014 was obviously incredibly prescient.

There's no doubt about it.

Thank you, Jim.

But what the Royal College of Surgeons is saying, I don't see...