Jimmy Kimmel

And over the years, we realized, oh, they just want to see a desk and the guests and a band, and don't fuck around with it.

It's a great format.

Steve Allen invented it 50-something years ago, and it's exactly as it was then for a reason.

Yeah.

Do you feel like, I know you're not part of the decision-making process on this at all, but do you feel like there will be, like the Tonight Show would be the last show to get canceled, I would assume.

Do you think that that show will last a really long time or do you feel like eventually all these shows go away and have to get reinvented and whatever?

I think there's, I don't think there's a reason for these shows to go away.

I think there are different, there are ways, you know, it started out, these shows started out

because they were a way to get high-priced talent for almost free.

That was the whole trick.

That was the whole reason they started these shows.

It was deemed to be promotional.

So the idea that these shows need to cost $120 million, they don't need to cost $120 million.

And somebody will figure it out.

Well, it's like what a Hot Ones is, makes the similar concept for considerably less money.

Right.

Yeah.

I mean, I think you could still have the same format.

You could still have a band.

You could have all of those things and still do the show for a lot less money.