Jimmy Miller

Yeah, I wasn't sure. You know, I don't know your exact thing, but like with the Kaizen and all of that, you know, obviously.

Yeah, I wasn't sure. You know, I don't know your exact thing, but like with the Kaizen and all of that, you know, obviously.

Yeah, I do like, I mean, your Kaizen episodes are great. You know, just wasn't sure. I know it's always contentious when I say, like, not a fan of Agile, even with a lowercase a, just not a fan. So it was a good company to work for. You know, the biggest problem, really, why I wouldn't have stayed there longer is, like, being underpaid. You're in a small town. There's limited talent.

Yeah, I do like, I mean, your Kaizen episodes are great. You know, just wasn't sure. I know it's always contentious when I say, like, not a fan of Agile, even with a lowercase a, just not a fan. So it was a good company to work for. You know, the biggest problem, really, why I wouldn't have stayed there longer is, like, being underpaid. You're in a small town. There's limited talent.

There's limited places that you can go, though, so it can pay you way less. Turns out I was making the same as people who had been there eight years and who had job titles way over me, which was just wild. But this is programming in the Midwest. I know tons of people who are at companies like this with equally crazy code.

There's limited places that you can go, though, so it can pay you way less. Turns out I was making the same as people who had been there eight years and who had job titles way over me, which was just wild. But this is programming in the Midwest. I know tons of people who are at companies like this with equally crazy code.

I mean, even Salesforce has a branch here in Indianapolis and all the code I hear out of Salesforce sounds...

I mean, even Salesforce has a branch here in Indianapolis and all the code I hear out of Salesforce sounds...

Yeah, it's a little complicated. It is. The basic idea for that one, just to be clear, is like salespeople, you know, obviously there's like the real accounting. I know there were some comments on Hacker News of like, that just sounds like fraud. There's like the real accounting system. And then there was the reward system where they get bonuses and stuff. This was the reward system.

Yeah, it's a little complicated. It is. The basic idea for that one, just to be clear, is like salespeople, you know, obviously there's like the real accounting. I know there were some comments on Hacker News of like, that just sounds like fraud. There's like the real accounting system. And then there was the reward system where they get bonuses and stuff. This was the reward system.

And, you know, yeah, they were trying to get bonuses every month. And if they made a big sale at the end of the month and they had already gotten their max bonus, they would just move that to the next month so they could get their bonus for next month. Right. So they had a cap on commissions and things like that. And this was moving it around.

And, you know, yeah, they were trying to get bonuses every month. And if they made a big sale at the end of the month and they had already gotten their max bonus, they would just move that to the next month so they could get their bonus for next month. Right. So they had a cap on commissions and things like that. And this was moving it around.

Yeah, and it got encouraged here, but the way that it was implemented was interns manually writing SQL statements.

Yeah, and it got encouraged here, but the way that it was implemented was interns manually writing SQL statements.

There were people who the whole internship they were there, they never got to write any code other than these SQL updates. And I think that's a shame, right? Like that's not how you should treat your interns. But that was one of the things like, I just refused to do it. I just never wrote one.

There were people who the whole internship they were there, they never got to write any code other than these SQL updates. And I think that's a shame, right? Like that's not how you should treat your interns. But that was one of the things like, I just refused to do it. I just never wrote one.

So, you know, every time it would be assigned to me, I would just not go find something else to work on and do that instead. I wasn't a great employee also, to be clear. I was 20. I was very, you know, I was very, a little bit more prideful than I should have been. A little bit more arrogant than I should have been for sure. But yeah, no.

So, you know, every time it would be assigned to me, I would just not go find something else to work on and do that instead. I wasn't a great employee also, to be clear. I was 20. I was very, you know, I was very, a little bit more prideful than I should have been. A little bit more arrogant than I should have been for sure. But yeah, no.

No, no, it's definitely a Silicon Valley reference.

No, no, it's definitely a Silicon Valley reference.