Jimmy Wales

I'm going to be really disappointed in you if you don't, you know.

Yeah.

And so there's all kinds of things that can undermine that.

Yeah, that's right.

Yeah.

If you're talking about the problems of social media, we can get quite in a depressed mood of like, oh, it's so toxic.

It's a different podcast.

Yeah, exactly.

And if we think about this, like you go to McDonald's and you eat your food and you've got your tray and you've got your like bits of paper and so on.

What does everybody do?

They go over, they put the paper in the garbage can and they put the tray on top and they walk out.

And nothing bad would happen to you if you didn't do that.

You'd be a jerk.

So it's a different system, different rules.

But, you know, it's not that Europeans aren't trustworthy in the same way.

It's just, okay, different rules.

But like, you know, whenever you feel a bit of despair, you're like, you know, look at that guy in his MAGA hat or look at that lefty hippie.

Guess what?

They're all just going to put their stuff in the bin.

I do and I don't.