Jimmy Wales

So like if you visit a website and it's HTTP, then that's in the clear.

Anybody spying on your connection can see what you're reading and all of that.

HTTPS, like when you go to your bank, they can see that you're talking to us, but you can't see which page you're reading or what the content is.

So when we moved to HTTPS many years ago now, we thought this is going to be interesting because at the time, a lot of countries were they were often filtering out political opposition and things like that.

So there was a lot of that going on.

And I was like, well, OK, when we do this, we should expect we're going to get blocked in a lot of countries around the world.

No, we didn't.

And I think what it came down to is because they could no longer filter certain pages, they had a decision to make.

You can block all of Wikipedia or you can have all of Wikipedia.

And a lot of them are like, I guess we'll just have Wikipedia then, like because they know we're not radical, we're not whatever.

But that's really important because it does mean like if you are in Iran and you have questions about human sexuality and you want to read about it, like you need privacy, like you need to be able to do that anonymously.

It's really important that you can do that.

And, you know, I think what they decided was like, actually, Wikipedia is so useful, whatever, can't control everything.

That's interesting.

Well, I always joke about North Korea is like the one guy with a computer can look at anything he wants.

Right.

They've got a broader, like, yeah.

So I wouldn't say we're accessible.

I don't think so.

Just China at the moment.