Jimmy Wales

And if you tell me my guy, you know, committed a scam of some sort, I'm going to be like, yeah, they're all like that.

Yeah.

And like, oh, no, they're not all like that or they shouldn't all be like that.

Your guy's worse, though.

And in fact, I think as voters, got to be pretty harsh on these things, you know, to go like, actually, you're in a position of leadership.

You're in a position of trust.

Like a teenager, we should say to them, I expect you to live up to that trust.

I'm going to be really disappointed in you if you don't, you know.

Yeah.

And so there's all kinds of things that can undermine that.

Yeah, that's right.

Yeah.

If you're talking about the problems of social media, we can get quite in a depressed mood of like, oh, it's so toxic.

It's a different podcast.

Yeah, exactly.

And if we think about this, like you go to McDonald's and you eat your food and you've got your tray and you've got your like bits of paper and so on.

What does everybody do?

They go over, they put the paper in the garbage can and they put the tray on top and they walk out.

And nothing bad would happen to you if you didn't do that.

You'd be a jerk.