Jimmy Wales

But, you know, generally, they cave in quite quickly.

Even Elon Musk, proponent of free speech, has caved in to censorship in various places.

Sure.

And I think they thought we would, but we're like, actually, we're principled and no, we're not.

And in fact, what's interesting about our business model, a lot of money from small donors who really believe in Wikipedia, believe in the ideas that I'm putting forward about the fundamental human right to access knowledge and to participate in dialogue and discourse about the facts of the world, our donors would probably punish us quite harshly.

If you changed stuff to go in China, I'm out.

And, you know, it's actually getting to be more complicated because all around the world, we're seeing the rise of more legislation that is, you can tell the people writing it, their mental model is Facebook or Twitter or whatever.

They don't really understand how Wikipedia works.

And so they want to impose duties on the organization to do the content moderation and things like that.

I'm like, well, we don't do that.

Like our community does that.

And in fact, if you forced us to have to do that.

We would be undermining our volunteer community.

Like, it's not going to work.

It's a bad idea.

And, you know, other things, you know, like restrictions that would require us to identify users and things like that, gather data we don't gather now.

Like, basically, you know, I do try to be diplomatic a bit.

And I'm also like, you know what?

We didn't do that in China.

We didn't do that in Turkey.