Jimmy Wales

But it kind of points to the fact that most people are basically nice.

Most people are trustworthy.

People don't just come by and vandalize Wikipedia.

And often if they do, it's because they're just experimenting or they didn't believe that would like, they're like, oh my God, it actually went live.

And I didn't know I was going to do that.

It's like, yeah, please don't do that again.

Yeah, I would.

I think that we are seeing all around the world a rise of authoritarian impulses towards censorship, towards controlling information.

And very often these come, you know, as a wolf in sheep's clothing because it's all about protecting the children or whatever it might be that, you know, you move forward in these kind of control ways.

But at the same time, you know, the Wikipedians are very resilient and they're very brave.

And one of the things that we believe is that in many, many cases, what's happened is a real lack of understanding by politicians and leaders of how Wikipedia works.

A lot of people really have a very odd assumption that it somehow works.

controlled by the Wikimedia Foundation, which is the charity that I set up that owns and operates the website.

Therefore, they think it's possible to pressure us in ways that it's actually not possible to pressure us.

The community has real intellectual independence.

But yeah, I do worry about it.

I mean, it's always something that weighs very heavily on us is volunteers who are in dangerous circumstances and how do they remain safe is like critically important.

Yeah.

I mean, you know, we've given a response to the parts of that that were reasonable.

I mean, what we feel like is there's a deep misunderstanding or lack of understanding about how Wikipedia works.