Jimmy Wales

But to the extent that he was called a conspiracy theorist by prominent people, that's part of his history.

That's part of what's there.

And Wikipedia shouldn't necessarily call him that.

But we should definitely document all of that.

Well, you know, it's very hard to say.

I mean, I think for many people, their level of trust in Elon Musk is extremely low because he says wild things all the time.

So to that extent, you know, when he attacks us, people donate more money.

So, you know, that's not my favorite way of raising money, but the truth is a lot of people are responding very negatively to that behavior.

One of the things I do say in the book and I've said to Elon Musk is that type of attack is counterproductive even if you agree with Elon Musk because to the extent that he has convinced people falsely that Wikipedia has been taken over by woke activists, then two things happen.

your kind and thoughtful conservatives who we very much welcome and we want more people who are thoughtful and intellectual and maybe disagree about various aspects of the spirit of our times.

Come and join us and let's make Wikipedia better.

But if those people think, oh no, it's just going to be a bunch of crazy woke activists, they're going to go away.

And then on the other side, the crazy woke activists are going to be like, great, I found my home.

I don't have to worry about whatever.

I can come and write rants against the things I hate in the world.

We don't really want them either.

I mean, we've had various conversations over the years.

You know, he texts me sometimes.

I text him sometimes.

He's much more respectful and quiet in private.