Jo Marchant

Because when people are feeling time famine, they don't do things that they enjoy.

They are less likely to eat healthily.

They don't go and

see the doctor when they need to, they're less likely to help other people, you know, all of these things that improve our quality of life, make life worth living.

We don't do because we feel that we don't have enough time, even though we actually have more time than ever.

And that comes from how precisely we're measuring this clock time and we're trying to chase every last second, every last millisecond.

And I think just taking a step back and realizing that

Time is a tool.

It's something that we invented to help us.

It's not a master.

It doesn't rule us.

And if we can step back from that and start thinking a bit more about lived time, about how we actually experience each moment and how we interact with the world, that's something that doesn't disappear when you try and chase it.

That's something that I think expands the more you think about it and the more you immerse yourself in it.

Thanks, Mike, for having me.

It's been really fun talking to you about now.